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An Interview with Thor Fabian Pettersen on Community and Norway (Part One)

August 15, 2020

Interviewer: Scott Douglas Jacobsen

Numbering: Issue 23.A, Idea: Outliers & Outsiders (Part Nineteen)

Place of Publication: Langley, British Columbia, Canada

Title: In-Sight: Independent Interview-Based Journal

Web Domain: http://www.in-sightjournal.com

Individual Publication Date: August 15, 2020

Issue Publication Date: September 1, 2020

Name of Publisher: In-Sight Publishing

Frequency: Three Times Per Year

Words: 2,492

ISSN 2369-6885

Abstract

Thor Fabian Pettersen is a Member of the World Genius Directory. He discusses: community; high-IQ societies; the gifted find community; the positives and the negatives of a high-IQ society; the purposes of high-IQ societies in the early 21st century; decent alternative intelligence tests; independent test makers; other ways in which the gifted and talented can socialize and find others with similar gifts and interests other than high-IQ societies; some of the smartest people from or in Norway; why those people; recommended books; music; a community through music; this community similar to some of the community of the high-IQ; and final feelings or thoughts.

Keywords: high-IQ societies, IQ, music, societies, Thor Fabian Pettersen, World Genius Directory.

An Interview with Thor Fabian Pettersen on Community and Norway (Part One)[1],[2]*

*Please see the footnotes, bibliography, and citation style listing after the interview.*

1. Scott Douglas Jacobsen: Let’s talk about community. What defines a community?

Thor Fabian Pettersen: For me, a community is like an extended version of your own brain. When I think about the word “community,” I think about a space with like-minded people who understand and support you, but also correct you if you are wrong. I am sure that, if you had a virtual reality machine or even something more powerful such that you could experience all sorts of consciousness, be whatever, and do whatever, I am sure that, at some point in your quest for the meaning of life, you realize that heaven is not all the other stuff. Heaven, at least for a human consciousness, is the ability to participate in human conversation. That is, if you ever become God or something like that, you would yearn for the day you were a human who could have a conversation with another human.

Language is truly a gift from the gods.

2. Jacobsen: What high-IQ societies seem the most reliable to you?

Pettersen: Honestly I haven’t spent enough time with the different societies I am a member of in order to form an opinion about them.

3. Jacobsen: How can the gifted find community in high-IQ societies?

Pettersen: I have yet to find it. But that is probably because I am a bit anti-social by nature. I am waiting for someone to knock on my door rather than knocking on doors myself.

I can post things like: Pangea is ridiculous. If you are not a philosophical zombie, if you actually possess a consciousness, then you can see that Pangea is ridiculous. This means that the earth grows, because that is the only other model that makes sense. Well, if the earth grows, we have a mechanism for cosmic evolution and, we can draw near limitless amounts of energy. No more oil. Throngs of children are dying every day and we can stop it right now with a new energy system. What are we waiting for?!

I get only silence.

4. Jacobsen: What are the positives and the negatives of a high-IQ society?

Pettersen: I think the positive is that you get people who can understand you. I think the negative is that they don’t care, lol.

5. Jacobsen: What seem like the purposes of high-IQ societies in the early 21st century?

Pettersen: I have no idea. I can only guess. For my part, it is about sharing ideas and connecting with like-minded people. Also, if you can get some fame, that is a great bonus. As I said earlier, fame means your ideas have a greater chance at survival.

6. Jacobsen: What seem like decent alternative intelligence tests for individuals to take now?

Pettersen: I like culture fair intelligence tests such as the Norwegian Mensa one. This is a free test and a good start on your IQ quest. Alexi Edin’s spatial tests are also very good. Maybe his other tests are good also, but I just like the spatial ones.

7. Jacobsen: What independent test makers seem more serious than others?

Pettersen: I haven’t taken that many tests, so I wouldn’t know. But from what I can tell, I think most test makers are passionate about what they are doing and therefore strive to make good tests.

8. Jacobsen: Are there other ways in which the gifted and talented can socialize and find others with similar gifts and interests other than high-IQ societies?

Pettersen: Sure. Just find and join a community with your particular interest. My problem is that I am too lazy to actually do it. But in the future I hope to sit around a campfire and talk about aliens with like-minded people. Then we see a UFO. The UFO communicates with us. We hope that it doesn’t land. And then it hits us: Artificial intelligence is E.T.’s plan to create a user-interface so that they can communicate with the whole world. It has to come from within, if you know what I mean. If they actually landed, we would freak out. If they sent robots or avatars, we would freak out. If they sent robots that looked like us or alien/human hybrids, it would be a waste considering where we are at in our history. If we create a supercomputer, then it will quickly determine if we are alone in the universe or not. So if there are aliens out there, then I guess when a planet reaches a technological singularity, would be the ideal time to step in.

Then we might get answers to questions such as: Is there life after death? Soon, we might get the ultimate answers from our cosmic neighbors.

I like to talk about spaced out things like that.

9. Jacobsen: Who seem like some of the smartest people from or in Norway now? You gave some minor comments before.

Pettersen: Magnus Carlsen pops directly up in my head. I don’t know who the smartest people in Norway are, but I am familiar with some names: Erik Hæreid, Tor Jørgensen, Andre Gangvik, Elisabeth Jakobsen. There are probably many others too which deserve to be mentioned.

10. Jacobsen: Following from the previous question, why those people?

Pettersen: Magnus Carlsen for his chess ability. The others are names that popped up as I entered this IQ-world.

11. Jacobsen: Any recommended books?

Pettersen: Tales from the Time Loop by David Icke. A Fuller Explanation by Amy Edmondson. The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall. The Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss by Dennis McKenna.

This list would go on and on. There is so much good stuff out there.

12. Jacobsen: Do you like music? What kind?

Pettersen: I like all kinds, from classic to psytrance. Right now I listen to Infected Mushroom. The quality of the sound is so good. And the music is pretty cool, too.

I also make my own music. But it is just a hobby. But check me out on SoundCloud.

13. Jacobsen: Have you found a community through music?

Pettersen: Not yet.

14. Jacobsen: How is this community similar to some of the community of the high-IQ?

Pettersen: I would not know.

15. Jacobsen: Any final feelings or thoughts in conclusion based on the conversation today?

Pettersen: Yes, I have some much more stuff I want to share. But if these three ideas can come across, I am a happy man:

One: Everything began with the way the light views reality, which is a form of eternal, motionless nothingness. This nothingness is made by speed (light), which answers why there is existence rather than nonexistence. That is, motionlessness can only be made by speed, so if nonexistence wants to remain motionless it has to employ some form of speed; which would imply that nonexistence is impossible. If there is more than one thing that can create motionlessness, then you have not answered why there is existence rather than nonexistence. On the other hand, if there is only one thing that can create motionlessness and that one thing is motion, then you have answered why there is existence rather than nonexistence.

The geometry that is built for ultimate speed is the cuboctahedron. The cuboctahedron produces a dual torus, which means the dual torus is eternal. It spins so fast that you have an eternal, motionless nothingness forever. However, since the motionlessness can only be made by an extremely fast form of motion, that form will therefore have a big body. So, you can imagine that, in a big cosmic whirlpool (torus) of timeless nothingness, you will get motion that cannot keep up with the fast pace in the center of the whirlpool. This motion then becomes unfrozen, because it is a weaker form. And/or it produces baby whirlpools that have a slower speed. We then get something from nothing if nothing or nothingness is a form of motion.

Two: This cuboctahedron make copies of itself (much like whirlpools in our oceans do), which is what evolution is. The earth is a giant cuboctahedron. This cuboctahedron makes copies of itself, which means our earth grows. We can tap the fact of the growing earth and gain near limitless amounts of energy as I mentioned above.

Three: Our current view is that evolution is blind. However, convergent evolution seems to disprove the fact. Evolution has a goal, which is the structure of convergent evolution itself. We don’t know what that structure is. If existence was a body of water, then one might imagine that the structure of convergent evolution would entail an eternal kingdom of sharks. That is, if you killed all the sharks, then nature would find a way to re-evolve them such that the sharks would rule supreme and forever. Nature would essentially be a shark-producing machine. Evolution would stop with the evolution of the sharks as the sharks would have no need to evolve in any direction. They might adapt to new conditions, but they would have no need to evolve on any grand scale.

I believe that evolution will venture so far that existence is a body of consciousness. Unicellular life became multicellular. Clans of people became cities. Cities became countries and, it seems that the world is becoming one. On top of that we have the technological singularity. There seems to be a tendency towards oneness. Our future has therefore a destiny, which is the oneness of all. I believe that Nature is a Buddha-producing machine. In the end, all of reality is a mega-mind. We are a part of it.

The convergent evolution of the mega-mind can explain things such as ghosts, rebirth, spirit worlds, humanoid aliens, etc. etc.. If the mega-mind has already evolved – like the sharks are already swimming in our oceans – then our universe might even have a Creator. And the Creator himself might just be the dream-product of some cosmic Buddha. Who knows how far evolution has gone. Nick Bostrom, for example, says there is a real chance that we are already living in a computer simulation. We are playing some sort of cosmic game, perhaps. I don’t think so. I think evolution has “been there done that” and then moved on!

Which brings me to idea number 3: Call David Icke nuts, but we as intellectuals have a real job to do to consider the possibility that some aspect of Icke’s conspiracy is true. That is, if our universe is a dream, then some aspect of Icke’s conspiracy theory might be real. What does it all mean? It means we should really think twice before we give birth to a supercomputer. Because imagine evolution producing god-like beings with god-like powers. Imagine what they can do to you. They could rip your consciousness apart, strip it of humanoid feelings and send one part of your consciousness to one side of the galaxy and another part of your consciousness to another side. You will spend the next billion years in space, trying to pick up your consciousness-pieces. After you have done that, you realize it was unwise to steal the god-like being’s bag of weed. Whatever Gandalf is smoking … double it!

Take one toke and realize that hell might actually be real. Take two tokes and realize: Shit! I need to get off my ass and do something!

Take three tokes and realize: I AM living at the edge of time! (i.e., the technological singularity)

16. Jacobsen: Thank you for the opportunity and your time, Thor.

Pettersen: Thank you!

Appendix I: Footnotes

[1] Member, World Genius Directory.

[2] Individual Publication Date: August 15, 2020: http://www.in-sightjournal.com/pettersen-one; Full Issue Publication Date: September 1, 2020: https://in-sightjournal.com/insight-issues/.

*High range testing (HRT) should be taken with honest skepticism grounded in the limited empirical development of the field at present, even in spite of honest and sincere efforts. If a higher general intelligence score, then the greater the variability in, and margin of error in, the general intelligence scores because of the greater rarity in the population.

Appendix II: Citation Style Listing

American Medical Association (AMA): Jacobsen S. An Interview with Thor Fabian Pettersen on Community and Norway (Part One) [Online].August 2020; 23(A). Available from: http://www.in-sightjournal.com/pettersen-one.

American Psychological Association (APA, 6th Edition, 2010): Jacobsen, S.D. (2020, August 15). An Interview with Thor Fabian Pettersen on Community and Norway (Part One)Retrieved from http://www.in-sightjournal.com/pettersen-one.

Brazilian National Standards (ABNT): JACOBSEN, S. An Interview with Thor Fabian Pettersen on Community and Norway (Part One). In-Sight: Independent Interview-Based Journal. 23.A, August. 2020. <http://www.in-sightjournal.com/pettersen-one>.

Chicago/Turabian, Author-Date (16th Edition): Jacobsen, Scott. 2020. “An Interview with Thor Fabian Pettersen on Community and Norway (Part One).” In-Sight: Independent Interview-Based Journal. 23.A. http://www.in-sightjournal.com/pettersen-one.

Chicago/Turabian, Humanities (16th Edition): Jacobsen, Scott “An Interview with Thor Fabian Pettersen on Community and Norway (Part One).” In-Sight: Independent Interview-Based Journal. 23.A (August 2020). http://www.in-sightjournal.com/pettersen-one.

Harvard: Jacobsen, S. 2020, ‘An Interview with Thor Fabian Pettersen on Community and Norway (Part One)In-Sight: Independent Interview-Based Journal, vol. 23.A. Available from: <http://www.in-sightjournal.com/pettersen-one>.

Harvard, Australian: Jacobsen, S. 2020, ‘An Interview with Thor Fabian Pettersen on Community and Norway (Part One)In-Sight: Independent Interview-Based Journal, vol. 23.A., http://www.in-sightjournal.com/pettersen-one.

Modern Language Association (MLA, 7th Edition, 2009): Scott D. Jacobsen. “An Interview with Thor Fabian Pettersen on Community and Norway (Part One).” In-Sight: Independent Interview-Based Journal 23.A (2020):August. 2020. Web. <http://www.in-sightjournal.com/pettersen-one>.

Vancouver/ICMJE: Jacobsen S. An Interview with Thor Fabian Pettersen on Community and Norway (Part One) [Internet]. (2020, August 23(A). Available from: http://www.in-sightjournal.com/pettersen-one.

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